johnpa 679 Posted January 31, 2021 True, I also thought the roof wasn't flexing on the black top so the seal was better. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shellback91 1,633 Posted January 31, 2021 56 minutes ago, johnpa said: Thanks Kris, ordered one today. Also, you know we were talking about the a pillar leak. On the way home from mammoth, my a pillar did not leak through some good down pours. Leaked only on the trail? I had the same water leak issue on the trail but it was coming in through my door. On the way home it was just an occasional drop or two. I am thinking slow speed and weird angles may have caused that. I am thinking the cause is along the same lines as mentioned by @theksmith and @dzJeepChic Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
johnpa 679 Posted February 4, 2021 Thanks Kris, took Al's apart today 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theksmith 3,667 Posted February 4, 2021 (edited) On 1/31/2021 at 10:32 AM, johnpa said: Thanks Kris, ordered one today. Also, you know we were talking about the a pillar leak. On the way home from mammoth, my a pillar did not leak through some good down pours. Leaked only on the trail? On 1/31/2021 at 11:09 AM, dzJeepChic said: Maybe the airspeed was keeping the water from pooling in a certain spot? On 1/31/2021 at 11:31 AM, johnpa said: True, I also thought the roof wasn't flexing on the black top so the seal was better. On 1/31/2021 at 11:34 AM, shellback91 said: I had the same water leak issue on the trail but it was coming in through my door. On the way home it was just an occasional drop or two. I am thinking slow speed and weird angles may have caused that. I am thinking the cause is along the same lines as mentioned by @theksmith and @dzJeepChic mine would leak horribly during heavy rains when it was parked in my previous steeply sloped driveway. the dealer ended up replacing the entire "header panel seal" under warranty and that mostly stopped it. now i occasionally get a few drips from the A pillars, or at the front of the B pillars. it only happens when going slow offroad and usually only on inclines - so i think it's a combination of body flex and water pooling in the channels around the Freedom Tops at low speeds. it doesn't happen often enough to be worried about right now (thanks to living in AZ)! here is the mega-manual on how to troubleshoot and fix water leaks in the JK. this is the updated longer version that includes a bunch of factory TSB's and factory repair procedures: JK_Water_Leaks_All.pdf Edited February 4, 2021 by theksmith 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
johnpa 679 Posted February 5, 2021 I am thinking of adding a thin piece of foam to my vent when I install 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theksmith 3,667 Posted March 10, 2021 we did a little run to the Bonanza mine ruins yesterday... Gadget waiting for the group at our meetup spot just off Hwy 93: 3 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theksmith 3,667 Posted March 13, 2021 the clouds were so nice yesterday morning i decided to grab some Starbucks and take a short drive to the edge of town. this is just out past the turnoff for Bartlett where the Sears Kay fire was last year. 3 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theksmith 3,667 Posted March 13, 2021 3 minutes ago, Trail Toy said: What's that I notice? Water/mud to be had and your tire tracks going AROUND all that potential fun? 😄 i loathe mud! sure, i've done my fare share of rompin' in the past... but i'd rather not spend $60 and 2 hours at the DIY car wash! old video of Lafawnduh playing dirty: 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theksmith 3,667 Posted March 22, 2021 (edited) @Number7 and i recently traded some work on each others' rigs... George replaced my transmission filter and custom installed a Fumoto drain valve into the pan. the OEM pan has no drain at all and we both like to replace some fluid every few oil-changes instead of waiting 50k+ miles to do a complete trans flush. note that Dorman does make a replacement pan with a drain plug for this trans, but it's for a different vehicle because the plug sits directly above the exhaust crossover on a JK and would be impossible to access. i ordered a Fumoto F102S drain valve and a 3/8" BSP threaded brass nut to match its thread. G drilled a hole in the pan near at the back passenger-side corner to install the drain. he sealed it all up with grey RTV. i figured grey is used on the transfer case halves, so it must be able to survive ATF+4 fluid. G suggested i add a small heat shield to the crossover pipe to ensure the plastic security clip on the valve would not melt. i had some left over from my recent custom emergency fluid storage area project, so that was a quick addition using a couple large hose clamps. i already have the little elbow and hose that clips onto the Fumoto snort-nipple valves to drain fluid neatly into a bucket, since that's what i use for my oil changes. while i had all the skid plates off, i went ahead and changed my transfer-case fluid as well. a cheap transfer pump that attaches directly to quart or gallon jugs makes that an easy job. the Mopar part numbers used for all this: - ATF+4 for the transmission and the transfer-case: #68218058AC - transmission pan gasket: #52108332AA - transmission filter: #52108325AA Edited March 22, 2021 by theksmith 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dzJeepChic 2,372 Posted March 22, 2021 36 minutes ago, theksmith said: @Number7 and i recently traded some work on each others' rigs... George replaced my transmission filter and custom installed a Fumoto drain valve into the pan. the OEM pan has no drain at all and we both like to replace some fluid every few oil-changes instead of waiting 50k+ miles to do a complete trans flush. Here's a couple more pictures from the project. Creampuff was a little bent out of shape that Gadget kicked Clifford out of the garage, but they were smiling like besties by the end of the week. 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
