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2023 Rebel HD (RAM 2500)

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Out with the old and in with the new. I traded in the 2020 Gladiator Mojave for a 2023 RAM 2500 Rebel HD. I wanted 5th wheel towing capability but I did not entirely want to give up offroad chops. The Power Wagon is light in payload and towing, but this new Rebel HD at 2750 payload and 16800 towing (as configured) splits the difference between a Power Wagon and pure street towing pickup.

 

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This a new trim level for the 2023 model year. You can get them with either a 6.7L Cummings or a 6,4 Liter HEMI, but beware due to the softer than street suspension of the Rebel, the diesel engine cuts nearly a thousand pound off of the payload and 2K pounds off of towing. Also, diesel models cannot be had with the factory winch option as the intercooler goes where the winch would. Because towing and factory winch, I ordered the HEMI option. Strangely enough, Stellantis anticipated high diesel demand and produced the first batch as entirely diesel. I had to custom order to get a HEMI.

 

Modifications will be light. While I want to create a new "overland" build, distinct from my JLUR which is meant as my technical route vehicle, I want to maintain towing capacity. So for now, no lift is planned and since the factory tires are already 34", I'll leave the wheels and tires alone for now. The most I'd probably go with in the future is 35s.

 

I'm not one good with naming, so I'll probably stick with calling it the "Rebel".

 

Despite no lift nor aftermarket tires, the highest point on the Rebel, the top of the GPS, SiriusSM, and cellular antenna, is higher than the highest point on my JLUR lifter 3.5 inches and sitting on 37s. It's sitting at maybe a hair under 6' 10". But given the wheelbase, I'm not sure it would clear well in parking garages, like the Phoenix Airport calling for <= 6'10". TBD.

 

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It was custom ordered with the 6.4L Hemi, RAMBox, winch, sunroof, every towing option including rear air suspension, dual alternators, and the 12" console. At 5'6", sitting in this thing makes me feel kinda tiny to be honest. It does fit in my garage, but just barely. There is no getting past the front or rear of it with the garage door closed.

 

Some options are mutually exclusive and unfortunately not all marketed options were available (eg: trailer reverse steering, digital rear view mirror) but I ordered just about every option you could get in April 2023 for a HEMI Rebel intended to tow and still go back country.

 

  • 2023 RAM 2500 Rebel HD
  • Olive Green Pearl–Coat Exterior Paint (two-tone over Diamond Black)
  • 6.4L V8 Heavy–Duty HEMI MDS Engine with 8–Speed Auto ZF 8HP75 Transmission
    • Power 410 hp (306 Kw) @ 5,600 RPM
    • Torque 429 lb.-ft. (582 N•M) at 4,000 RPM
    • Dual alternators (380 amp total)
  • BW 44-46 electronic shift transfer case w/ 2.64 low range
  • Limited–Slip diff with electronic locking rear and conventional diff front axles
    • 4.10 Axle Ratio
  • Automatic–Leveling Rear Air–Suspension
  • RamBox Cargo Management System w/ Bed Utility Group
  • Power Sunroof
  • Factory installed Warn Zeon 12 Winch
  • Towing Technology Group
    • Center Stop Lamp with Cargo–View Camera, Surround–View Camera System, Blind–Spot with Tag Trailer & Cross–Path Detection, Trailer Reverse Guidance
    • Trailer Tire Pressure Monitoring System
  • Safety Group
    • Lane Keep assist, fwd collision warning, adaptive steering
  • Level 2 Equipment Group
    • Leather everywhere, front cooled and heated seat, rear heated seats, and heated steering wheel
    • 12" Display w/ 17 speaker Harmon Kardon Audio
    • Bi–Function LED Projector Headlamps
      • Adaptive forward lighting (follows steering up to 15 degrees)
    • Auto dimming rear and telescoping side-view mirrors
  • Adaptive Cruise Control

 

Like the Power Wagon, the Rebel HD has 11.1 inches of clearance and a water fording depth of 30 inches and a 429 RTI (ramp travel index).

 

Misc Stuff:

  • 8HP75–LCV Transmission Gear Ratios
    • 1st 4.71
    • 2nd 3.14
    • 3rd 2.10
    • 4th 1.67
    • 5th 1.29
    • 6th 1.00
    • 7th 0.84
    • 8th 0.67
    • Reverse 3.30
  • Battery: Group 65, maintenance-free, 730 CCA
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I really like our Ram 1500 w the 5.7 Hemi.  It rides nice enough we are taking it on a long road trip rather than the new jeep 

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The first "modification" is to cover the bed. I chose the BakFlip Revolver X4

 

RAMBox as ordered:

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Installing the Revolver into the RAM bed require driving the tonneau rails into the factory cargo rails. To say that the fit is snug would be the understatement of the year. It took a mallet and a block of wood to hammer each BakFlip rail into its corresponding cargo rail. Worth noting, the factory cargo rails have both a side and top opening for attaching various accessories. The BakFlip Revolver uses the top opening and leaves the side opening available for the factory tie-downs and other accessories.

 

Here is one of the BakFlip rails partially inserted into the factory rail. You can see some of the black paint shavings.

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Fully installed:

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All close up:

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You have to get a little creative to fully seal it for water ingress resistance, but I knew that going in. I wanted a hard top, rolling tonneau cover though to support being completely out of the way for a 5th wheel hitch. and not blocking the back window when fully opened.

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7 minutes ago, Curly said:

I really like our Ram 1500 w the 5.7 Hemi.  It rides nice enough we are taking it on a long road trip rather than the new jeep 

 

It rides really nice, especially for a 2500, with the factory Bilstein offroad shocks. But get it on the 303, which I did this weekend, and that up and down wave of the pavement reminds you what the difference between a 2500 and 1500 is. Other than running the 303, it's a really nice ride. And one can't complain about the rumble of the 6.4 opened up.

 

6.4 go brrr.

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The next quick "mod" is adding the 67 Design's Series 55 rail. RAM gives you a nice change holder with a power port up top, might as well make it useful. The rail installs using the two factory screw holes and 3M VHB tape.

 

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It keeps the phone is easy reach without taking you eyes off the road. Also useful for dual screen CarPlay apps like Waze and Google Maps.

 

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But for those who prefer, there is a factory phone holder down below in the beyond spacious center console. They were even thoughtful to leave a split for the charging cable. But note the cable is not required for CarPlay or AndroidAuto. With the 2023 model year, Stellantis finally got on board with wireless CarPlay and AndroidAuto.

 

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One modification I will not need for now is a Goose Gear, or homemade, rear seat platform. RAM thought to add that in themselves.

 

Rear seats in "normal" configuration and driver's side platform folded for storage. You can see the platform in its folded-away position.

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Note that under the fold-away platform is under seat storage. If you have either the Alpine 9 speaker or Harman Kardon 17 speaker option, the rear passenger-side under-seat storage is where your sub is located.

 

Driver's side only platform deployed and full platform deployed

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Quite nice of them to leave the floor mounted cup holders available. With four cup holders in the console and two more in the rear, there is no shortage of places to stash coffee.

 

And speaking of places to stash stuff...

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There is one of each side. I have seen both lockable covers and lockable full inserts in the aftermarket for that bin position.

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What!? No more trail limo?!!!!

 

Congrats man, sweet ride!

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53 minutes ago, 4x4tographer said:

What!? No more trail limo?!!!!

 

Congrats man, sweet ride!


Thanks! The trail limo got longer and wider. I thought about making it a joke that I took the Mojave in for upgrades and this is how it turned out, but I was never great at crafting a good joke.  My tolerance for putting this one through some of the more extreme paces I did the Mojave, however, will be lower.

 

Schnebly Hill, absolutely

Broken Arrow, sure, why not.

Back Way to Crown King (deep breath), probably not. - Although I want to just to prove I can.

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Congrats.   I believe you will grow to LOVE it...   I'm hoping to never dispose of my old 2500...  ;)

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1 hour ago, ob1jeeper said:

Congrats.   I believe you will grow to LOVE it...   I'm hoping to never dispose of my old 2500...  ;)


Thanks and absolutely. I’m enjoying driving it.

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