shellback91

Nice set up.

Added to the standby list.

I have added you to the standby list. Stay tuned, sometimes things change and folks can't make it so a spot may open up.

If anyone else winds up joining you please let me know. You +1?

Welcome to the ORP family!

Sounds good, the truck may be to big of a rig so the WJ is recommended.

Signing you up, I presume you are bringing the WJ?

You + 1 or alone?

Photo courtesy of @4x4tographer I am borrowing information from @4x4tographer with his blessing. He helped me get my hands on the permit for this run, thanks dude! 🙂 Join my wife and I for a day trip on the famous Casner Mountain Trail! The USFS only allots 22 permits per year to help keep this trail in good shape. Each permit limited to 10 vehicles/25 people, that means getting there and running the trail is a special treat. This trail will take us high above the city of Sedona along a series of serious switchbacks where we will gain 2,000 ft of elevation in just under 2 miles. At the top, we will ride the ridge-back of the mountains with beautiful views of the Red Rock Secret Mountain Wilderness to the right and Sycamore Canyon to the left. As we climb, the landscape will transform from scrub brush and junipers to the tall and shady Ponderosa pines. We'll cruise through the Coconino National Forest and end up just outside of the city of Flagstaff near the I-17. When & Where: Saturday: July 1, 2023 @ 8:30 A.M. Air down and depart NLT 9:00 A.M.- Please arrive fueled up and ready to go. Location: Dirt lot near the intersection of 89A and Loy Butte Road (FR 525) 34.815120577231774, -111.9052835271499 Trail Rating: Moderate We will be running the trail from South to North, dropping us off near Flagstaff. This trail is not very technical- based on past experience it is well maintained. There are very steep inclines with tight turns (in the switchbacks on the way up and along the saddle), moderate off-camber and narrow shelf roads. Because of the steep , off-camber and very tight switchbacks Full-sized trucks are not recommended. Also, if your rig is a manual I ask that you be very comfortable with it when climbing uphill. Great trail resources: TrailsOffroad: https://www.trailsoffroad.com/trails/1460-casner-mountain-trail A great trip report and photos from @4x4tographer Vehicle Requirements: High clearance, 4x4 with low range, aggressive A/T or M/T tires are required. GMRS or ham radio in good working order. Most stock 4x4 vehicles with low range will do great. Rear lockers/limited slip recommended.(Not required) Communications: GMRS Channel 20 (462.675mhz) Additional Items: Dress for the weather Bring a chair! Bring snacks, a lunch and plenty of water Recovery gear/traction aid Emergency supplies / Med kit Sunscreen! Don't forget that camera - you're going to want it Bring a positive attitude! 🤘 Sign-Up: Per the permit: 10 vehicles MAX and 25 people MAX. When you sign up, please tell me how many are in your party. Anyone above the 10 vehicle max will be added to the standby list. Don't worry if you end up on stand-by; people drop out as plans change and you may end up getting a spot! Attending: @shellback91 & Mrs. shellback91(Lead) @MzPriss +1 @AZRNintheJeep242 @LaZorraRoja +1 @Jbjr +1 @Sputternutz +1 @Dcoleaz +1 @snoopy61 @REDROCK TONIHAWK +1 @camas Harris +1 Standby squad @Gonzo-Ralph +1

Thank you Ryan for the information! As old as Betty Lou is I may have to take some drastic measures here. 🙂 After looking around some more I did see on the Metalcloak website that the Tie Rod works with stock JK wheels and spacing but I wanted to verify. I called Metalcloak and spoke to Jon. He verified that the Tie Rod does in fact work with stock 17" wheels and spacing, that's a win because that's what I have and it lessens impact on the wallet some, for now. Here is where the dominoes fall 🤣 If I replace Tie Rod I will probably be forced replace the steering stabilizer. Not necessarily a bad thing, I would only need to decide what mount. I like bougie so I would get the Billet mount. It looks like I may have to bite the bullet and buy the HD Steering Kit. It has what I need, I just need to check my budget. I will be calling Mr. Joe to see what he would charge to install that stuff. I do not have all the right tools to do this without committing a murder or 3. 🤣 Good talk guys, as always I appreciate hashing this out here. 🤘

Thank you sir. My main concern is how much of a PITA they can be to remove. I read Ryan had to commit a murder to remove his drag link. 🤣 If I go and replace the Tie Rod with a MC one could I possibly run into clearance issues at full lock? Cascading issues are a huge PITA and expensive to boot.

Betty Lou's drag link is having issues, it is old so I am not surprised. My steering wheel has decided to un-center itself randomly lately so I am having to fix that every so often. I had to do that on the KOFA run. The adjustment collar is bolted down, I put plenty of ugga dugga's on it. When I was adjusting it Sunday Ken & I noticed the TRE on the Pitman arm has some play where it goes into the adjustment collar. I was able to wiggle it and watch and hear the threaded portion move around. All that to ask this: Based on your experiences If I replace the stock Drag Link with an after market one would that cascade into replacing other things up front? I want to avoid that because every time I upgrade one thing three more have to be upgraded/replaced. It is the way of the Jeep gods, they are cruel that way. 😃 I may also have to buy a bucket of patience, more tools and other things. I am looking at the Metal Cloak drag link as one option so far. It looks like a good option.