WILL E 525 Posted December 4, 2022 3 minutes ago, OffroadFun said: i don't have a printer was going to print to pdf and keep a digital copy In the off chance we get stopped just be courteous and you should be fine. Usually Robin is the Ranger I see out there and I know her and she's cool. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OffroadFun 408 Posted December 4, 2022 23 minutes ago, WILL E said: In the off chance we get stopped just be courteous and you should be fine. Usually Robin is the Ranger I see out there and I know her and she's cool. The permit itself says it must be signed and in my possession. My phone is a note comes with a pen stylus That allowed me to sign it. Since my phone has it as long as I don't forget the phone and can pull it up I meet the requirement on the permit itself. The site itself just says must be on hand but says nothing of a paper form. I mean as long as I can present it, it is on hand. I think I fall within the requirements. I mean it's almost 2023 who still kills trees? I can pull it up without internet access.. I'll give it a try. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mick Bowers 457 Posted December 4, 2022 Will, I'm gonna bail out due to the rain and the inevitable clean up afterward. If you are going again soon i hope yow will include me. Thanks, Mick Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WILL E 525 Posted December 4, 2022 28 minutes ago, Mick Bowers said: Will, I'm gonna bail out due to the rain and the inevitable clean up afterward. If you are going again soon i hope yow will include me. Thanks, Mick Sorry Mick, this was you one and only chance. Of course I will include you next time. Do you want me to PM you or do you keep a close eye on the board? And yeah, I hate mud. I do most of the wrenching on my rig so mud means crap falling on me when I am under it. It doesn't matter how much you power wash it, the darn dirt finds a way into your eyes! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mick Bowers 457 Posted December 4, 2022 I do watch the site, but would appreciate a heads up. Re. mud: If I take the rig to the self service car wash the owner gets “downright ugly” and if I wash it down my driveway into the gutter the neighbors walk by and “stare at it.” 🥴 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WILL E 525 Posted December 4, 2022 9 hours ago, Mick Bowers said: I do watch the site, but would appreciate a heads up. Re. mud: If I take the rig to the self service car wash the owner gets “downright ugly” and if I wash it down my driveway into the gutter the neighbors walk by and “stare at it.” 🥴 I hear ya! I hate the mud too. I'll avoid the puddles where possible today. I'll PM you next time I post up a run. I might do a quick BULLDOG one on the 17th or 18th and then early January perhaps a classic 'box canyon' run. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillsCarnage 52 Posted December 4, 2022 I'm in S Phx an it has started raining again here. What's the consensus; we doing this run? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
braunbeck 6 Posted December 4, 2022 On 11/9/2022 at 5:35 PM, WILL E said: Only got one BULLDOG run in October and no plans for November. A few folks said they where interested so here we go! So assuming I don't break down on the Black Friday Log Corral run we are doing Bulldog! (If I do break down I will bring the ZR2 instead) This run is close to the Valley. The first part is a really fun and scenic. If we head off to Wolverine it's a bit more of a shelf road trail but the scenery is still very nice. This time we will head south on when we get to FR10 and exit at Wolverine. If you want to go North on Fr10 and exit Bush that okay too, come hang with us for the first part of the trip. It's a short quick run from the 3554/10 intersection to the Bush exit A permit is required, it's $6, lasts 6 months and is specific to the Bulldog Canyon area: https://www.recreation.gov/vehiclepermits/3332401 Technical Rating: 2-3 (easy) if you exit off of Bush, I'd give it a 4 going South to Wolverine. There is one tipsy spot going downhill that can be a little exciting otherwise I would rate it a 3 max. REQUIREMENTS: A stock clearance 4x4 with a low range transfer case option, suitable front OR rear recovery point (trailer hitch is fine), stock tires. (I've done this trail in a stock ZR2 out to Wolverine) Rigs & drivers must meet all the typical state/federal legal requirements for on-highway vehicles (license, insurance, registration, seat belts, lights, etc.) $6 permit per vehicle. Each OPERATOR must have a permit, families can share a permit This is a great trail for people with less experience. Everyone must stay on the designated trails Radios: Not required. Ham on 462.700, CB or FRS all work for me. Trail finding is easy and we'll keep you in our mirrors. I have spare radios too. Itinerary: Meet up time will be 10:00 am at fr3554 trail head off of Usery Pass. We'll air down (optional) and chat a bit. We'll stop at least twice to enjoy the view and chat. I'll make some cheese crisps for anyone interested in a snack when we stop for lunch. The trail is about 7 or 8 miles long to Bush. Wolverine is another 10 or so miles and takes another 45 or so minutes (we will stop less on 10). Bring the kids, the pets, Grandma. Bring something for lunch. We'll stop for about an hour for lunch under the shade of some mesquite or palo verde trees. 3554 trail head: https://www.google.com/maps/place/West+Gate+to+Bulldog+Canyon+OHV+Area/@33.5026963,-111.6133648,15.5z/data=!4m13!1m7!3m6!1s0x872bbb81761e8ac7:0xc24136abcb51c998!2sUsery+Pass+Rd,+Mesa,+AZ+85207!3b1!8m2!3d33.5240835!4d-111.61566!3m4!1s0x872bbba068b5c437:0xe103b51b92f8ed81!8m2!3d33.5047988!4d-111.6172384 Signed Up: WILL: 83' Cherokee MADDDOG & MISFIT: '21 Wrangler JL BillsCarnage 2015 Grand Cherokee Kenneth Johnson 2018 Jlr ZR2-Ben 2021 Colorado ZR2 OffroadFun! Sheila R. Wrangler braunbeck Misty Had to drop out: lofreqjeff 1989 4Runner (Life got in the way) Mick Bowers 2016 Land Cruizer Mick doesn't like mud! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
braunbeck 6 Posted December 4, 2022 We’re on our way, probably going to be about 10 minutes late if that’s not an issue, got caught up in some traffic in North Peoria that slowed us down 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mick Bowers 457 Posted December 4, 2022 (edited) Will, the 17th sound great to me. I have the Bradshaw overland this Weekend and leading a ride for our a community offroad group on the 16th Mick Edited December 5, 2022 by Mick Bowers Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
