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  1. 7 points
    George @Number7 had a little adventure over last weekend, rescuing his friend's Rhino SxS. Below is his friend's write up about their experience. When he mentions in the story that they had to go over a spot that he had marked on his map as 'impassable' he's talking about Rocker Panel Pass (which G says is rougher than ever right now). If you were with ORP on a trail ride in 2010 and we found a tortoise out past Rocker Panel Pass, that's about where the Rhino was. Rhino Side by Side Adventure On Monday 2/8/21 we did a fairly strenuous hike on a high ridge above Horseshoe Canyon so we planned an easy ride on our Rhino side by side for Tuesday. The plan was to visit the area of the 2019 Verde forest fire shown on the map below. We had been on the trails in this area on a small 2WD quad ATV in 2001 2001 2021 The Rhino we now have is 4WD and well equipped with large oversized tires, skid plates, etc. We started out from the Bush trail head and went north on forest trails 1848,403,1852 and 1096. The trip took about four hours and was unusually tough with many rocks, boulders, washouts, steep up and downs, etc., so we decided to take a different route back. Plan was to take 160 east to 1855 south, then 1851,403 and 1847. Many times we have found that trails numbered with 3 digits are more traveled and in much better shape than 4 digit trails, hence we choose 160 going east. Surprise, the 160 trail was TERRIBLE. The further we went the worse it got. The downhills were so steep and rutted that we were at the point of no return back up those hills. We have driven our Rhinos 15,000 miles on all types forest trails in the last 16 years with no accidents, this time we flipped ours on its side. We were stuck on this very steep hill, miles from any help and no cell phone service. For about 10 years we have carried at Spot device which can send a SOS message to search and rescue folks and provide them our exact location. We had never had occasion to use it before but needless to say we did now. The device indicates when a SOS is sent but there is no feedback showing the message was received. We waited on site for 1 hour and then started hiking on down the trail realizing we would probably not reach help by nightfall. A short while later a low flying helicopter went past us and hovered directly over the Rhino. A short while later they spotted us and landed a short distance ahead of us and got us onboard. LIFT OFF…..OUR RHINO CIRCLED IN RED The Maricopa Sheriffs copter took us directly to the Bush trail head where our car and trailer were parked. . There two officers awaited us along with our daughter who had been notified of the SOS by them. They checked our health and asked for identification so they could complete a report AND SEND US A BILL FOR THE HELICOPTER SERVICE! I once heard someone was charged $1700 for the service. We got our drivers licenses from the car and I inquired as to the possible cost, the officer replied he was JOKING, hallelujah and many thanks to the Sheriff’s search and rescue team. The officers said that we were on our own as far as retrieving our Rhino and they would not be helping in that endeavor. Retrieving the Rhino turned into exciting 1.5 day adventure which will be documented in the near future. RETRIEVING OUR RHINO 1/10/21 The rescue helicopter took us to our car at the Bush trailhead. While driving home I called our friend George Zalman who operates the OFFROAD PASSPORT jeep club. We live close to each other and only about 10 miles from the trailhead. He was home and told us to swing by which we did. We showed him where our Rhino was on a topo map and he was very familiar with the area. He said he could retrieve the Rhino with his jeep and would pick me up at our house in a few minutes. The shortest way to the Rhino from Highway 87 was the dreaded 160 trail. The Jeep folks are aware of how bad that trail is and about 2 miles in we came to a section I had marked on my topo map 20 years ago as an IMPASSE (see red X on attached map). George has modified his jeep to handle about any terrain and I cannot describe how tough this section of 160 is, I’m still in disbelief that we got through it (sorry no photos). We got to the Rhino and got it upright by winching to a large hillside boulder (again no photos). Next problem was it would not start. All the gas had run out on the ground but an onboard spare gallon tank was full and we used it but still no luck starting. We tried dripping gas directly into the intake, bypassed brake starting switches, and everything else we could think of to get it started but with no success. It was getting dark and the decision was made to tow it out. Without describing all the details I will just say that doing this in the dark was a nightmare. Because of sharp switchbacks it was not possible to hook the Rhino directly to the jeep but instead we had to drag it using the winch cable and I was onboard steering it in the dark with no lights or power steering because the battery was rundown. It was critical to drag the Rhino brakes on the steep down hills to avoid smashing into the jeep. After about an hour of this my 87 year old arms gave out (they had been steering the Rhino for over 5 hours earlier that day). George said we only had two more hours to go but I wimped out. We left the Rhino and it took us an hour just to jeep out. I got home about 10:30 that night. ANOTHER DAY ANOTHER TRY 1/10/21 George was available Tuesday afternoon and I recruited our grandson Kramer to be the Rhino pilot. He and George went in the Jeep to get the Rhino while Del and I towed our trailer to the Sugar Loaf trailhead and several miles on the 402 trail so as to shorten the Rhino towing distance. To our surprise the tow crew appeared with the Rhino in less than 2 hours. In the daylight they had unhooked the winch on some steep hills and let Kramer freewheel down. In summary, it was an interesting 2 day adventure with lots of lucky happenings after the not so lucky wheels up flip. The most important lessons learned are: 1. Do not proceed beyond the point of no return 2. Do not proceed where passage is doubtful Many thanks to George and Kramer and the Guardian Angel that kept us injury free.
  2. 5 points
    Update on the Metalcloak drop down brackets: After yesterdays run and more freeway driving there's a HUGE difference in how my Jeep drives now. When I first bought my rig it had terrible handling, especially on the freeway, actually kinda scary with how bad it wandered. Always had to have 2 hands on the wheel to keep it under control. Now I can drive with one hand barely holding the steering wheel and my rig drives basically like a normal vehicle, nice and straight for the most part and no wandering. Bumps, pot holes, etc. are barely noticeable to where as before they were a bit violent when hitting them. Offroading is much better now, smoother and my steering wheel doesn't jerk back and forth nearly as violent as before. Braking is a hint better than before as well. All in all, these drop down brackets are awesome! If I had known about control arm angle/geometry and how important it is and how much difference it makes I would have bought and installed them much sooner. I want to thank @Stacey and Scott & @4x4tographer for explaining (while on the Bolder Pass run) about the geometry and opening my eyes, so to speak, about the importance of control arm positioning.
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    wow! sounds like the lesson there was: if you venture off-road, you should always know a George! a few of the trails in that area really are quite rough... i once ended up on some of those trails in my XJ with a small budget lift. i had started out from Lower Sycamore and just kept exploring further and further. as it got close to dark, i didn't want to try and return the difficult way i had come, so i was trying to exit the nearest way i could find back to the 87... i ended up getting stuck on a berm trying to get off the trails at a nearby ranch. it was just after sunset and i was pretty sure i was on private land at that point, so i was getting nervous about getting shot or in some form of trouble. i didn't have a Hi-Lift, winch, SPOT or even a decent sized shovel - total noob and completely unprepared. eventually some nice farmhand dudes saw my headlights out at the edge of the field and came over in their pickup. the one thing i did have was a tow-strap, and they easily pulled me off the berm and showed me the way back out to the 87.
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    What did the shirt say to the pants? . . . . . . "WHAT'S UP BRITCHES"
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    This is now the site used to get the permit: https://luke.isportsman.net/
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    Gear head got it right and Diane is also correct, there are other tanks and vehicles out there. The best ones are the ones gear posted, those are the ones that you can spin the turret and elevate the carriages. Just about directly on the other side of the mtn from those tanks, is the Betty Lee mine and Little Bagdad. Pretty close by.
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    Happy Birthday Kristoffer! Thank you for everything you do to keep this place in tip-top shape!
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    I was driving through Phoenix yesterday on a road trip back home and stopped by and said Happy Birthday to Kris, I was lucky enough to have caught him at a point where he still had his pants on and was not too day drunk. Happy Birthday Mang!
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    Let me start by stating this is not an actual Jeep run. This is an event put on by MG Shooters twice a year where folks basically bring out all types of firearms, artillery, weapons, etc. and shoot/blow stuff up for 3 days (Fri.-Sun.). This event is about 10 miles NE of Wikieup (as the crow flies) and costs $35 per spectator, $35 is for a 3 day pass. 12 miles after passing Wikieup on the right hand side is a dirt road called Lower Trout Creek Rd. You turn right onto this road and follow the signs that take you to the event. This is a maintained dirt road that a 2wd car can easily travel on. Map link of the dirt road: http://mgshooters.com/img/maps/normalway-map1.png I haven't been to this event in about 5-6 years but have gone to it several times and it's always a blast (no pun intended) to watch. MG Shooters has a "rental tent" where you pay to shoot fully automatic weapons. They have a variety of different weapons at different rental prices. Website link: http://mgshooters.com/index.php There's no rig limit, obviously, and I figured this would be fun for anyone, especially gun enthusiasts such as myself to go watch for the day. They have food and drink available for purchase at the event but obviously you can bring your own. Shooting starts at 9am so it's best to get there a little ahead of that. Meet up time is 7:45am at Wikieup Trading Post then leave from there by 8:15am to get to the event. Shooting schedule: 9am-12pm, 1 hour break, 1pm-4pm, then dark-9pm. Meet up location: map Please reply if you're interested and I'll get a list of attendees going. 1. @Trail Toy
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    Weldon would be the long way around, better to go in through Wellton. And Yes, you still need the permit.
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    That sounds awesome! So when we going?
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    You can go to the BG Range anytime, but you have to call your group in. There are several sets of old tanks out there. You can spin the turrets and raise/lower the guns in some of them. Thanks for the map link Gear, that's the area.
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    Here are at least four that I remember on the west side of the Copper mountains. There are others but I can't recall where:
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    Great write up, thanks for sharing Diane. Nice job on that recovery @Number7 !
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    Excellent write up! Thanks Diane for sharing that well written summary. Nice job George! That sounded like one heck of a recovery. The Rhino operator having a PLB was huge in this case. Can you imagine the difference it would have made if someone was injured? Edit: Also a thumbs up to the MCSO officers and SAR personnel
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    that's my reluctant local source if i'm in a hurry. they aren't the most pleasant folks to deal with and their price for smaller materials is about the same as the total cost with shipping from many online sellers. they're probably the right place if you need very large heavy pieces though.
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    Maybe there will have to be a recall to rearrange the letters.
  22. 1 point
    This run is rated easy though wheel spacers are recommend
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    Let me start by stating this is not an actual Jeep run. This is an event put on by MG Shooters twice a year where folks basically bring out all types of firearms, artillery, weapons, etc. and shoot/blow stuff up for 3 days (Fri.-Sun.). This event is about 10 miles NE of Wikieup (as the crow flies) and costs $35 per spectator, $35 is for a 3 day pass. 12 miles after passing Wikieup on the right hand side is a dirt road called Lower Trout Creek Rd. You turn right onto this road and follow the signs that take you to the event. This is a maintained dirt road that a 2wd car can easily travel on. Map link of the dirt road: http://mgshooters.com/img/maps/normalway-map1.png I haven't been to this event in about 5-6 years but have gone to it several times and it's always a blast (no pun intended) to watch. MG Shooters has a "rental tent" where you pay to shoot fully automatic weapons. They have a variety of different weapons at different rental prices. Website link: http://mgshooters.com/index.php There's no rig limit, obviously, and I figured this would be fun for anyone, especially gun enthusiasts such as myself to go watch for the day. They have food and drink available for purchase at the event but obviously you can bring your own. Shooting starts at 9am so it's best to get there a little ahead of that. Meet up time is 7:45am at Wikieup Trading Post then leave from there by 8:15am to get to the event. Shooting schedule: 9am-12pm, 1 hour break, 1pm-4pm, then from dark-9pm. Meet up location: map SIGN UP
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    Happy b-day to you Happy b-day to you You look like a Jeepster And you smell like one too!
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    Hey, Happy Birthday Kris, hope you have a great day!!
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    Can anyone give me the location of the abandoned tank in southern arizona? Thanks
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    You need a permit no matter what on the BG Range.
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    Wow that's awesome! I'll have to make a trip down there one of these days.
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    It is....you have to get a permit, but it is free.
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    Thanks gearhead!!!!!!!!!
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    @gearhead to the rescue!
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    Excellent George! They sure were lucky, both with the injury free, plus they knew you and ORP! You are indeed a good man George, and I am glad you are my friend! smiles, karen
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    Wow thats a heck of a story! Go George!
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    My experience mimics Kris’s. Maybe it depends who you talk to, but in my experience they aren’t excited about a small order. However, they aren’t the only metal supplier I could say that about here in the Phoenix area. Also, and I know this is my fault, most places I’ve been expect you have an in depth knowledge of the properties of the aluminum they have for sale. I know enough to be dangerous but, as an example, my last purchase of aluminum was 3003 instead of 6061. Until I read about the alloys I didn’t know that 3003 had better corrosion resistance and therefore was better for my project. When I’m standing at the counter and the guy rattles off the alloys they stock I’m sure he labels me a dumb ass when I’m not instantly sure what I want. YMMV.
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    Kris, I do not have any experience with this newer style filter media, as it was not "on the table" for testing/evaluatrion when I was involved in filtration testing. I will contact some of my friends/former co-workers to see what I can find out about them... May take me a while to find the correct person for that information, as I've been retired 16 years, and both people and materials have been under constant change since then...
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    NO MORE OIL LEAK! Had the upper oil pan gasket replaced today so no more oil leaks/drips or burning oil smell.
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    for using the Fortin bypass and harness instead of the Omega, here's what i came up with... shopping list - Easyguard EC002 alarm/PKE/push-button-start system - Fortin EVO-CHRT5 kit which includes the EVO-ALL module and CHR5 T-Harness for JK's - Fortin Flashlink programmer wiring for EVO-CHRT5 + Easyguard + Jeep JK Easyguard 3P, White "B" (GWR -Out) === Fortin 20P A, Dark Blue A8 (GWR -In) Easyguard 6P, Orange (Accessory +Out) === Fortin THAR-CHR5 Harness, Loose Yellow Wire (Jeep RUN/ACC +In/Out) Easyguard 6P, White (Ignition #1 +Out) === Fortin 20P A, Yellow A1 (Ignition +In/Out) Easyguard 6P, Yellow (Starter +Out) === Fortin 20P A, Red/Blue A9 (Start +In) Easyguard 20P, White (Door Locks Relay COM +/- In/Out) === Fortin 20P A, Purple A2 (Lock -In) Easyguard 20P, White/Black (Door Locks Relay COM +/- In/Out) === Fortin 20P A, Purple/White A3 (Unlock -In) Easyguard 20P, Blue/Black (Door Status -In) === Fortin 20P A, Green A4 (Door Status -Out) Easyguard 20P, Orange (Brake Pedal Status +In) === Fortin 20P A, Black A11 (Foot Brake +Out) === *OPTIONAL: Splice into Jeep Brake Pedal Switch 6P, White/Tan (pin #6) (Brake Lights +Out) Fortin THAR-CHR5 Harness, 4P White & Black connectors, Black (Ground) (Splice in to this) === Easyguard 3P, Yellow "C" (GWR Ground) === Easyguard 20P, Black (2 wires) (Ground) === Easyguard 20P, Yellow/Black (Door Locks Relay NC +/- In/Out) === Easyguard 20P, Yellow (Door Locks Relay NO +/- In/Out) Fortin THAR-CHR5 Harness, 4P White & Black connectors, Red (+12V Supply) (Splice in to this) === Easyguard 6P, Red (2 wires) (+12v In) === Easyguard 20P, Blue (Oil Path Detection +In) === *OPTIONAL: Aftermarket chirp siren, Red (+12v) *OPTIONAL: Easyguard 20P, Pink (Horn -Out) === Aftermarket chirp siren, Black (Ground) *OPTIONAL: Easyguard 20P, Brown #1 (Parking Light +Out) === Splice into Jeep 34P behind Passenger Kick Panel, White/Orange (pin #1) (Jeep Driver Parking Lights +In) *OPTIONAL: Easyguard 20P, Brown #2 (Parking Light +Out) === Splice into Jeep 34P behind Passenger Kick Panel, White/Violet (pin #5) (Jeep Passenger Parking Lights +In) optional wiring items explained #1: the "Splice into Jeep Brake Pedal Switch" connection - if you don't do this, you'll always need to press the start/stop button TWICE while holding the brake pedal in order to start the Jeep, or hold the start/stop button for 5 seconds to start it. not a big deal except it's not how most PTS vehicles work so good luck with the people at the car wash or oil change shop! #2: the 2 connections for "Aftermarket chirp siren" - my aftermarket horn was annoyingly loud when it honked every time i walked away to signal the doors locking. so i disabled the horn confirmation in the Jeep's "Personal Options" and instead wired up a little 12v siren under the hood to the Easyguard. now i get a nice chirp when the doors lock. and, if i don't shut a door all the way, it gives 3 quick chirps as i walk away to let me know. #3: the 2 "Parking Light" connections - i still didn't bother too hook these up. they allow the Easyguard to flash the running lights when you open a door (for safety?). it think it would also let the Easyguard turn the running lights on when you remote-start as an indicator the rig is running. that's how the factory remote-start works and so i may hook them up one day just for that little visual indicator. Flashlink settings - i flashed firmware version 74.38 (my module was hardware version 6.0) - clicked "Expand Options", turned EVERYTHING OFF! - then only turned ON: A1 thru A12, B1, C1, D2 - screenshot here... - NOTE: if you want to experiment with anything, be sure to leave D1 "Standalone Remote Starter" and G "Evo Alarm System" set to OFF. as soon as you turn those on, the inputs & outputs on the module completely change meaning - so your wiring is no longer valid and could even damage the EVO-ALL or Easyguard. Easyguard settings - i left the dip switches set the same (all UP except #5) - i tried resetting the crank time parameter to default (shortest), but the Jeep would not start like that. i had to put it back to the longest setting. compared to using the Omega module - pro: the EVO-CHRT5 kit is readily available and inexpensive (whereas the Omega harness is no longer made) - pro: no need to create the custom resistor pack - pro: no need for the special delayed-on timer relay - pro: the Forton wiring harness is overall just simpler/cleaner - con: the Jeep locks all the doors when you start it... it's not a huge deal because in typical use, when you open the driver door from the inside after driving somewhere, all the doors will unlock. however, if you start it then haven't yet taken it out of park at least once and turned it back off, opening the driver door from the inside only unlocks that one door and the rest are still locked which can be unexpected/weird. this is because you have to enable option D2 "unlock before/lock after". otherwise, using the Easyguard's remote-start feature will trigger the factory alarm to start wailing on the horn. the Omega module had an option for just "unlock before" without the "lock after" part, so this problem didn't occur with that module. so unless i've missed something, i think the Fortin + Easyguard is the way to go! parting shot with Zumi, my wiring helper:
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    Standard knee jerk by me, sign up then check the work schedule. Unfortunately that Saturday is my Tuesday (rotating schedule) so take us off the list please.
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